Tasos's picture
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Dear community,

I am thinking about introducing a revenue share model in the future. That means that contributors would get rewarded financially for uploading- for example with a 'per sound' rate.

I would like to give something back to the community and this could potentially boost uploads and help us grow the library in a much faster rate.

Its a model called 'crowdsourcing' where people collaborate through the web to create something (iStockphoto does something similar).

However, I fear that:

1) This could lead to lower quality of samples and copyright infringement

2) It could drain us financially, if we are obliged to accept most sounds and have to pay every contributor

3) We might have to start selling the sounds (for a low price), apply a membership model or limit free downloads to a certain number and sell advanced memberships for unlimited use.

Of course, the two first issues can be sorted to a certain extent by controlling which sounds are uploaded through admin filtering.

I would like to hear your thoughts on this important issue

- Do you think that there would be many more pros uploading if there was a financial reward?

- Is this something you would like to see happen with the community?

- How do you think we can grow into the top sound resource of the world?



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Tasos's picture
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Its still 2008 over here

Its still 2008 over here :-)

The info will be uploaded in a minute!



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Erm, is this actually going

Erm, is this actually going to happen soon. I recall reading somewhere that all the upload stuff was to be worked out late-December, or that we should check back here in late December. It's January now where I live. Just wondering about how much time we have left.

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Hi Consonance, All work in

Hi Consonance,

All work in design and programming falls under the 'Quality, Time, Price' rule.

Everyone tries to do everything perfect, fast and cheap.
But unfortunately, in the real world you have to make compromises.

I 'm a big fan of quality and getting things to work and look good. But this sometimes results in time delays and having to pay pricey bills.

We usually have one very talented person (Robb Canfield) and sometimes one or two others working on them on a freelance basis. But thats not whats slowing us down.

At the moment, we 're shaping the concept to be confident that we get it right. So please stay tuned for more info.



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I know this question might

I know this question might seem a little off-topic, but I'm wondering how many people are working on designing/programming the upload/reward system. I would like to see Soundsnap up and running fully again so I can start contributing, but I'm curious as to how much work it will take.



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Dear David, Thanks for your

Dear David,

Thanks for your input.

I think that every kind of music is useful to Soundsnap.

Especially 'world' music or folk is a great example of the usefulness of the Internet for the distribution of culture. From your house in Brazil, you can upload samples that will be mixed, cut and tweaked in every corner of the world.

So the answer is definitely YES, we 're interested.

But we 'll all have to wait a little bit until we finalize the upload model.



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As to DAN, to many post to

As to DAN, to many post to me to read it all and too many changes from October the last i use soundsnap. So want to contribute to the model with an example.

I was thinking in a contribution that consist in a Brazilian batucada Sampler. recorded with all the dinamics and articulations, it will be many single samples, I have seen some things similar here but not so huge, (instruments section). Is this contribution interesting for the comunity? have a place here?, how could people download this with the various systems you are thinking about?.

And to get an opinion about revenues and money, to me could be enough to become contributor just to have no download limit, when you got something to produce only extensive tools are useful to me. Who must be paid?, of course contributors which are useful to the community ( most downloaded ), contributors with an evident quality ( maybe voting between contributors ), contributors wich have huge share collections and uploads.

Its just an opinion, and i haven´t read it all, so maybe somebody told it before, sorry if.

Thanks Tasos if you could answer my questions about the Brazilian Batucada Rompler.

David GG

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Geeesh! All these exciting

Geeesh!

All these exciting changes happening and I seemed to have missed all of them! As a contributor to Soundsnap I have unfortunately not been able to contribute any sounds in the last months, due to moving to another country. I did however get a chance to record some more sounds recently and was keen to upload them this morning but was faced with all these changes!

I read as much of the posts here as I could and I must say that I do support this move. It is a brave one but I am very glad to see that you really do care about your contributors Tasos and I think that the plans you are implementing shows that!

A lot has been said about quantity over quality.....seeing that soundsnap was build on a system of contributors sharing their sounds without getting any money, I don't expect them to now lower the standard of work because they are getting some money...that just doesn't make sense.....however this might be applicable to new contributors whose sole drive is to make some money!

Personally this new move has motivated me to get out there and make some more recordings and share them here at Soundsnap. I hope you can resolve all the logistical issues soon and that we can share sounds again!

All the best
Dan



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Just wanted to say... I

Just wanted to say... I discovered SoundSnap a few months ago and have recommended it to all my fellow teachers and classmates (I'm in a grad documentary film program). I've been to most of the free and paid sound sites, and I agree w/ other users that there is a uniqueness and quality on SoundSnap that is awesome!!

I think it would be great to do a credit based system like iStockPhoto. I was disappointed that I cannot upload sounds to give back so to speak (since I've used several tracks from this site), and I guess I wouldn't be a "pro" since I'm a student. Regardless, I think doc filmmakers could offer some unique sounds (and ambient recordings) because they venture into sound environments that are "out there," not necessarily foley artists who specialize in sound effects.

Keep up the good work! And thanks for keeping some of it free :)



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Hi Hessburg. Thanks for your

Hi Hessburg.

Thanks for your feedback.

You have a good point there.

We would have offered unlimited downloads, but want to limit auto-download bots and piracy.

If 100 sounds are not enough, you can then sign up for another 100.
I think this is still fair and a great bargain ($29 for 100 sounds).

Your point about the credits is very valid and we will definitely consider having a credit system in the future.

But for now, our current system with 5 Free sounds and Pro accounts should be able to satisfy 99% of our users.

Cheers!